3/31/2010 10:54 AM
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Ajet I am heartbroken.
I was sure that we would have success. But we are fighters and we can not give up.
Love Toni
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3/30/2010 8:59 PM
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Melissa and Ajet - I'm so sorry you got BFN's. Hang in there. Take the next step towards your dreams.
Snowie - Transfer is tentatively scheduled for April 29. I am on day 3 of Lupron. I stop taking my BCP this weekend, AF should arrive shortly thereafter, then baseline on Friday, April 9.
Wannabe - glad to hear AF finally arrived so that you could start your FET cycle. Good luck to you.
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3/29/2010 8:27 PM
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Ajet- so sorry but sounds like you are ready to move on to the next one!!
I go tomorrow for base line, and then I start the estrogen and then the Progesterone in a week or so- this is just a mock cycle. The lupron does give me bad headaches and Myrtle is killing me today, my cramps are so sharp I hate them!!! As for the bruising I have discovered a way to do it so you don't bruise. See I noticed that if you hit a vein and bleed you will get a bruise, well I don't know about you ladies but my blood vessels for some reason are so pronounced that I can see where they are on my stomach so I pick a spot where I don't see a vein and do my shot!!! So far it has seemed to work!!!!! Well I need to go lie down Myrtle is kicking my A$$!!!!!
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3/29/2010 7:29 PM
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Thank you, Thank you, Thank you, all of you sisters out there lots of thanks for your kind words. It does soo help to hear everybody else out there.
ajet -- I am also sad to hear your BFN, guess we just pick up and move on from here and hopefully this is just to get us the next step closer to where we need to be going.
wannabe -- i will be thinking of you friday when you go in. good luck with you FET decision.
snowie -- sounds like you are on to something sounds like something we will be trying now. Just taking off some time and getting away from all the meds and stuff and trying ourselves again.
irishgirl -- good luck on you next round and good luck with the shots. Less stress is good
Good luck to all the sisters out there. Thanks for talking with me.
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3/29/2010 5:06 PM
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WAnnabe: Good LUck with FET!!!
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3/29/2010 4:19 PM
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AJET : so sorry to hear your news . I think it is a good idea to take some time just to give yourself a break! Were you able to freeze any embryos?
Mellissa: also sorry to hear about your BFN. Please feel free to share your frustrations and tears here, everyone here is very supportive . My husband also travels a lot, which can certainly cause problems when you are supposed to have sex on a certain day! But we are long past hoping for that to happen naturally and now the problem is making sure he is home for IVF day. He was supposed to be away all week when we do this round of IVF but he is going to come home for a day and then leave again. He almost didn't take a job because it involved a lot of travel and he didn't want to be away if I was pregnant. But fortunately he did take it because that was almost 3 years ago and he would have missed a good career opportunity and we're still not pregnant!
Nwells - are you still on Lupron? Do you have a date set for IVf? I totally get how you feel , I have friends who started trying the same time as we did and a few of them have 2 kids now! I feel so jealous and then I feel like such a terrible person for not being happy for my friends.
So I am on day 12 of Lupron, had AF this weekend and starting stim meds on Thurs. The Lupron gave me some bad headaches, and I think the crazy pills are starting to kick in because I am crying at the stupidest things. I hate feeling like my emotions are so out of control! I am starting to bruise from the shots because of the baby aspirin and starting to feel like a pincushion but I know there are many many more shots to come starting the end of this week. I am surprisingly less stressed than last time, so maybe that will help in the long run! I am thinking about getting a massage for stress relief. I did acupuncture for months leading up to the 2 IUIs and last IVF and obviously it didn't work so I stopped going for it. But I think I might still get it the day of the transfer. Anybody have any thoughts on that?
PS what is the pineapple thing??
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3/29/2010 3:48 PM
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AJET....so terribly sorry for your BFN. Even if you anticipate it, it is still disappointing and not easy. I hope PGD is helpful to you though I know it's another added expense. Take good care of yourself. We'll be here to support you both now and when you are ready to cycle again.
Well, it's official, an am going forward with my FET. Thought about not saying anything, but decided to share. Finally got AF last week after 10 1/2 weeks of waiting since the birth of the boys. Major period but that was to be expected. Started on my BCP last Friday. Going in this coming Friday for a hydrosonogram just to look at everything. Start Lupron on 4/8 and should have my transfer the week of May 10th. Very excited and nervous at the same time. Think from now on I will worry a lot even though I will try not to.
Snowie, things sound like they are going really well. Will be eager to hear about your POAS!
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3/29/2010 3:16 PM
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Well I got the call...BFN. The next step is PGD. We've had 2 fresh rounds--1 failed and 1 success--and 1 failed FET. In the FET round the only thing left to tweak was my lining and he said it was perfect, so the only thing left is the embryo its self. Definitely not thrilled about another fresh round. My first reaction is to wait a few months before deciding when to try again.
Thank you sisters for all your support, prayers, and baby dust this past year.
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3/29/2010 2:40 PM
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Come on AJET- I am praying !!!!!!
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3/29/2010 12:26 PM
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Thx ladies for all your support and prayers. Just had my blood drawn and couldn't resist swinging by the drug store to pick up a test. I've always imagined the moment of finding out that I was pregnant like a normal fertile couple..."I POAS, get excited, put together a creative way to tell my husband when he gets home, he is floored because he had no clue that we might be pregnant....and the moment is ours..." Well as you, it is rare that it happens to the infertile.....so, I POAS and it was negative. Now I'm just waiting on the official phone call from my doc. Still hoping for that slim chance.....I'll let you know as soon as he calls.
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3/28/2010 6:56 PM
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Melissa - I am sorry to hear about your BFN. I know how hard it is to try to come up with the finds as I was 100% out of pocket too. Just put your trust in God and he will show you the way. Cyber hugs to you. Lean on those you love and that those who love you.
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3/28/2010 6:48 PM
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AJET- Good luck tomorrow I will keep my fingers crossed for you.
Ladybug- I will say an extra long prayer for you. I hope that this is the one that works for you. When is the actual transfer? FET was SO much easier than the fresh cycle. At least for me it was.
As for me I am currently 7 DPO. Trying to not read into every little thing i feel BUT i have had extremely sore boobs for days. I have had a headache for 4 days and recently I started peeing about every 2 hours. All of this could be impending AF but I am trying to remain hopeful. I will test when I am 12DPO. It would be a wonderful blessing if i got preggo after the first month. But I am remaining level headed knowing it can take any woman up to a year to be successful. We did BD A LOT and hopefully at the right times.
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3/28/2010 5:36 PM
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Good luck tomorrow AJET! Try not to worry about the negative POAS. I POAS 2 days before my blood test and they were negative and I got a positive blood test. Let us know how things go!
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3/28/2010 4:23 PM
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Ajet - My fingers are crossed for a BFP for you tomorrow. Hang in there!
Well, tonight I start my Lupron shots. Here I go!
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3/27/2010 8:38 PM
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hey all - Sat night!! I had a beer or two and well a shot of whisky apparently myrtle likes that stuff because it totally shuts her up!!! So yeah finally she is here!! I told you she wanted to wait till the weekend she knew there was a chance I would be having a few!!! she is such a lush!!!!!
Melissa- I hear you and no you didn't discourage us we totaly understand. Been there three times!!! So I know how you feel!!! we are here for you, so let it out!!!! You all don't know sometimes how hard it is for me to read your posts and not cry!! I want to give you all so much advice but it so hard sometimes. Most of you have to come up with so much money to go through all of this, and here I am with great insurance and some time I feel so guilty!!! SO Melissa I in my heart I want to tell you not to give up keep trying. I know it will be hard. Are you close with your husbands boys? Do they look up to you as a step mom? UGH how to put this!!! I know they are not your own, but to some extent to they look at you as a mom? My husband and I have been going through is for two years, everyone around me is on their second child and some on their first- and well you know I work at a school we won't go into the many teens who have children. I know how you feel more then you know!!! but in ourselves we have to believe it will happen for us, and most likely when we least expect it!!! SO try to stay positive and believe that there is a plan, i know I do!!!! for what it is worth I am with you and sisterly love you!!!! And if I could go to where you are right now I would and hug you!!!!
AS for the tix no my husband thought is was hysterical!! he couldn't believe it when the DJ said my name, then when he said something about my enlarged ovaries, he totally knew it was me!! Oh it was great HAHAHAHA!!!!!
Strength to those who need it!!! I am with you!!!!
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3/27/2010 6:28 PM
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Hello ladies. I havent been on here in about a week b/c my internet service had been down. Finally got it working today. I was skimming thru everyones posts. I see that there is a lot of new people. Welcome to all !!
As for me I went in for my pg test on Tuesday, and just what I thought a BFN. I just cant stand it. My husband has been working out of town for the past couple weeks. I got to see him for 1 hour today. I really he could be here with me. I need him now more than ever. When I very first heard the news i was upset but able to control my emotions b/c I was at work. I have lots of practice putting on a 'fake smile'. but as for the past couple of days I am just so upset at everything and i just keep feeling like I will never be a mom or a grandma. Everywhere I go there are people out with there children. I just keep thinking how lucky they are to have them. I have been unfair to my husband too since he already has 3 boys from a previous marriage, i told him he is lucky b/c he gets to see his boys grow up and see the similarities of him in them and he will get to be a grandpa. etc, etc. Now that my husband isn't here with me it really seems like i am all by myself now dealing with this. I have no idea what to do next. We really couldn't afford this IVF let alone try it again. Maybe it is just time to give up and let my body rest of all the medicine being put in it.
I am sorry if I am discouraging anybody out there. Dont want to do that, There are plenty of woman out there who this works for. Everybody is different. I am going to go for now, thanks for listening to me and I wish each and everyone on here lots of luck and baby dust!!
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3/27/2010 11:45 AM
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Ajet - GOOD LUCK on Monday!!! Sending lots of baby dust to you!!! I will be praying for you.
Good luck to everyone that is on their 2ww.
NWells - congrats on winning the tix.
As for me, I am just waiting to have my laparoscopy on the 10th.
Good luck to everyone, keep praying.
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3/27/2010 8:45 AM
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Nwells - You are so funny. I can just imagine how that story must have sounded. If I did anything like that my husband would kill me. Was your husband mad at all? Well have fun at the concert.
Good luck to those who are on their 2ww.
I finally got AF 2 days after going to the Dr office for blood work to see why it had not come yet. That figures lets spend more $ for nothing. So this time has been painful and really heavy for me. Is that normal after the drugs? Not to sure. Our RE gave us a few options about the drugs this time since she is changing the protocol. We can either stay with the menopur and bravelle and double the dose or switch to a follistism and repronex which is twice as much $$$. I just can't see spending $6500 on drugs that is almost as much as doing another cycle. So we are going to take our chances and stick with the drugs I was on with higher dosages. This is crazy I am not a gambler at all. But I feel like I am gambling with this IVF stuff. But if we get a baby or 2 at the end of all this, it will be money well spent.
So it looks like for us we will be taking a month off to save up more money. We are going to be doing our next cycle in May and into the beginning of June.
I started TTC when I was 27 so I never thought that this would be an issue. I know that my husband is 8 years older than me but I didn't think it mattered. I mean you hear about 60 year old men having kids.
Sorry I am starting to ramble. This whole process is just so frustrating.
Good Luck to everyone!
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3/26/2010 2:31 PM
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Nwells,
You crack me up!!!!!!! Congrats on the tickets. I could only image what the story about your sex life and IVF said.
Ajet- we will pray really hard for the right answer on Monday.
Lots of love
Toni
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3/26/2010 1:36 PM
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Toni--I ate Pineapple twice a day on bed rest
NWells--congrats in the win!
So, Monday is the big day. I must admit that I am a bad girl and have been POAS every morning since Tuesday--I know money down the drain ...but I just can't help myself. They keep coming up negative, but I hoping it's because it's too early. Besides being super curious, I would love to have the opportunity to tell my husband in person if we get a positive, since he is usually at work when I get the doc's call and he can't wait till he gets home to find out. He is so cute to observe during the wait--he gets more excited than me. He has a pep and in his step and this morning he was singing songs from "The Sound of Music"! LMAO! I was laying in bed cracking up!
Since I am so over getting up early to apply EMLA before my morning shot, I started using a heat pad 5-10 minutes before injection, and I barely felt it. Definitely going to continue with the heat pad method.
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3/25/2010 8:00 PM
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looks like there a few of waiting for AF- Myrtle decided she wanted to wait till this weekend to come because she heard I was going to have a fun weekend!!! LOL!!!! She is starting very slloooowlyy!!!!! I have a head cold and so my headache could be from the lupron or the fact that my feel like they are going to pop out of my head and my brains are draining.
Ajet- thanks for being blunt usually I talk about my boobs and I am all discrete "my chest" we all are going through the same thing!! from now on IM using boobs!!!!
Ladies I am in rare form tonight!! LIsten to this, a radio station here 104.1 is having a contest to win Kings of Leon Tix, to win them you have to write about why your sex life is a drag- Well going through IVF doesn't exactly make your sex life great so I wrote our story- we are going through IVF our Doctor basically tells us when we can and can't and with enlarged ovaries it isn't exactly the most pleasant experience. So tonight HA!!! I WON THEM!!!! they picked my story and read well not all of it but My husband heard him announce me as the winner and the DJ mentioned something about enlarged ovaries and sex LOL!!!! So I am going to see Kings of Leon maybe with my husband he isn't sure if he wants to go, if he doesn't my sis in law is all excited!!!!
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3/25/2010 4:15 PM
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AJET - Baby Bust Baby Bust Baby Bust Baby Bust Baby Bust Baby Bust Baby Bust Baby Bust Baby Bust Baby Bust
Drink lots of water and please take it easy my sister. I need a new niece or nephew.
During this cylce did you eat the pinapple as well?
Last time I ate it each day until
I am just hanging out until the next real visit from AF to have my testing and I am so exicited because I believe all of us will be blessed.
Love,
Toni
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3/25/2010 1:35 PM
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I have good news for everyone going thru some phase of FET. just heard from a friend of mine who went thru IVF, FET and IVf again without any success. But on FET #2 she got a BFP!! So have hope!!
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3/25/2010 9:47 AM
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Hi Ladies! Hope everyone's week is going well.
Jem - Congratulations on your pregnancy and I'm praying everything continues to go perfectly!
I have a question for you all...how long after you stopped taking the Lupron did it take to get your AF so you could start another cycle? I took Lupron for 4 weeks and have been off for 2 weeks and waiting for my AF so we can get going on another IVF cycle. Normally, my AF should have come last weekend, but I know I am all messed up from the Lupron.
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3/25/2010 2:43 AM
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Hello Ladies!
Thank you for all the positive wishes! I got off bed rest on Monday. My beta is next Monday morning. Not to be blunt but my boobs feel like someone is constantly trying to tune in Tokyo....and my feet are killing me! Every time I sit down for awhile and then stand up my feet feel as if I just walked a hundred miles on broken glass!
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3/24/2010 9:57 PM
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Hello ladies,
It has been a while since I have posted, but keeping up with you all. Welcome to the new sisters joining this site and wishing you the best of luck on your journey. As u noted a lot of talking, advice, experiences, and funny stuff.
Jem - CONGRATS and best of luck with your pregency.. AJET - praying for you with positive results and enjoy your bedrest in the meantime.
NWELLS- take it easy on yourself I guess this effect of the lupron and AF been away is good right. means lining is good and doesn't need to shed anything. Praying that this time all goes well. As for me just waiting for my AF after the 4th failed cycle and still on thinking mode.
I haven't said my congrats for everyone for the passing of the healthcare bill so let us see if infertility will be cover like everything else.
Love and baby dust to you all...
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3/24/2010 5:48 PM
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Thanks for all the advice and support! I am 31 years old and waiting to talk to my RE on 4/8 to find out what he thinks would be a good next step. I have a ton of questions for him. I do not know if he will recommend IVF again for us.
We had 10 eggs at retrieval. 5 fertilized and only 3 made it to the day 5 transfer. They were not good quality so we put all 3 back. Unfortunately we were not successful.
After 5 years of trying we are currently taking a break from treatment. We need to pay off the loan and begin saving again. We sort of put all our eggs into one basket so to speak. We do have the refund program at my RE's office. If he suggests IVF again I know we will participate in that program.
I guess that I was so excited and just had it in my head that we would have a ton of eggs and they would fertilize and we would be able to freeze them. I thought we would at least have one more chance. I am so depressed. I feel like everyone around me is getting pregnant and it is so easy for them. I just hope my RE has some answers for us.
Does anyone know how they would determine if there is an issue with my eggs? Would I have to undergo IVF again and see if we get the same results? I was so relieved at first to find out we could fertilize. However, now I am left with more questions. UGH This process is so frustrating.
I wish all of you well! Thanks for being there for me and give good advice! I really felt all alone until I stumbled upon this a week ago. Now I can talk to people who truly understand! YAY!
Thanks everyone!
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3/24/2010 4:03 PM
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Hi all-
Nwells- on the Lupron topic, I started my Lupron 3/18 and took my last birth control pill yesterday 3/23, so expecting AF probably in a few days. I have had some killer headaches, how are you feeling? I think I am on Lupron until 4/2.
AJET- Enjoy your bedrest and try to relax! Think of it as getting to take a sick day without feeling sick! I am starting to DVR lots of shows to watch on bedrest next month. I am thinking about reading the Twilight books. I didn't think I would like them but a lot of my friends are really into them!
Jem: CONGRATS!! Great news, we are all very excited for you!
Praying4: THe meds can make you a little crazy (they call it "Loopy Lupron") but this is so emotional that it's sometimes hard to tell if its the medicines or just the stress of the whole process. The Lupron injections use a very small needle and you hardly feel it. When you get to the IM shots (in the buttocks) they hurt but I think some people on here have some suggestions for that if you read the older posts (some kind of anesthestic patch?) As you get close to the IVF you will feel very bloated . I had 19 follicles retrieved last time and I was very uncomfortable toward the end. good luck!
Wannabe: Thanks for sharing your story and for your encouragement to all of us. I truly believe that good things will happen, FTTA!!!
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3/24/2010 1:47 PM
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Bang your head!!!!! I can't remember who signs that song, I think it is twisted sister how ever that is what I want to do right now- against a wall- a padded one of course I don't want to really hurt myself. It has nothing to do with baby stuff either. 52 days left of school, counting down, the day has been nutty and it isn't all the students either. I have a parent who drives me nuts, drives the teachers nuts and has been for the last 4 years. She is a nice lady but She doesn't quit either, I would be writing till tomorrow if I even went into how bad she is, and you all wouldn't believe half the stuff I would be telling you!!! Graduation night, if her son makes it, I will be toasting to her going bye bye!!!!! UGH!!!!!!
SO still no Myrtle, I am a little confused usually I would have her by now, I took a test this AM, BFN so I know she should be on her way. Hey maybe she will just pass right over me this month heck I won't be complaining!!!! Well other then that I am good. Sun is out today so I am excited we can have practice outside finally get into the concepts of the game. Well, ladies have a great day, talk tomorrow!!!!
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3/23/2010 9:45 PM
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Ladybug I will be praying for you. It will happen for BOTH of us :o)
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3/23/2010 9:14 PM
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Jem - Congratulations on your pregnancy! I'm so excited for you.
Snowie - you will be my inspiration with my next round. I don't know if you remember from my previous posts, but I will be doing a FET at the end of April, and I have 1 snow baby. It is encouraging for me to read that you did IVF with 1 embryo and it implanted. And good luck to you! How fun is it to TTC on your own.... so much more romantic that way! Good luck and lots of baby dust to you. I have a feeling it is going to happen for you soon.
Have a great night ladies!
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3/23/2010 12:11 PM
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Hey ladies
I always start lupron on day 21 and I am always 28 days, and as most of you know Myrtle doesn't like to ever be late, and she usually will spot a little to let me know she is arriving, well today is day 28, and I got nothing. Personally I think it is rather rude of her to play games with me like this, the only sign I have of her at all is cramps!!!! yes yes in the back of my mind the thought has occurred to me that maybe just maybe but there is no way at least I don't think there could be any way, my ovaries were so enlarged last cycle that I highly doubt I even ovulated. HMMMM!!!! I guess we will just wait and see.
Hi Jem I totally miss you yesterday, so sorry, first congrats on your pregnancy and second not so good on the morning sickness or all day sickness. I hope some of the other pregnant ladies or those who have been pregnant before can help you. good luck!
Praying4baby- everyone is so different, some ladies it happens first time, others takes two or three then there is me we are going on 4. So glad Snowie has been through your similar situation and was able to offer you advice. I wish you luck.
K Ladies, back to work. talk to you tomorrow.
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3/23/2010 8:01 AM
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My tubes were burned in 6 places. A lot of doctors will tell you its not a good idea but what I learned at Chapel Hill (where I had my TR performed) you can get pregnant with short tubes also. I only have 2.5 cm left on each side. Chapel hill keeps records of all pregnancies and has the statistics to back it up. Just this week a woman with only one tube that was only 2.5 cm reported a pregnancy. And they have even had a woman with only one tube that was only 1cm get pregnant. So dont always take your doctor or RE word for it. Both of mine said it couldnt be done either. It couldnt hurt to fax your op report from your TL to Chapel Hill to let them review it. The will let you know if they think they can repair it. Good luck.
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3/22/2010 10:09 PM
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Snow-Thanks for your advice and suggestion. My OBG-YN and the fetility doc both said because of the way it was done(they were burnt in 3 spots about a inch apart), that once they cut out the burnt part and operate on whats left, that there won't be enough tube left. They also said that there could be some scarring from the operation. After all of that, it seem to be too many risks compared to trying IVF. I wish we could have did that way, it would have been a lot cheaper. When we first decided to try this, i was really confident about being able to get conceive the first time around. But after reading about everyone else's trials and tribulations with IVF, I'm very nervous and afraid about what's to come. I'm just going to pray that everything works out. I figure that if this is what God has for us, then it will happen. Thanks again for taking time to share.
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3/22/2010 9:27 PM
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Praying4amiracle- I also tried IVF since I am (or was ) in the same situation. I had my tubes tied as well then remarried and we want to have a baby together. I am 31. I was 30 when we started. We got 10 eggs from Retrieval. 8 fertilized on their own no ICSI needed.4 made it to Blast stage. We transferred one the first time and froze the other 3. I got a BFP the first time around but lost it at about 8 weeks. Then the FET we transferred 2 but they had to thaw all 3 to get the 2 b/c one didnt make it. This resulted in a chemical pregnancy. Then after a LOT of soul searching b/c this was 100% out of pocket for us too we decided to have a tubal reversal. If you want info on this I would be happy to share with you. My tubes were also burned but I was able to have them reversed. So all hope is not lost if IVF doesnt work for you. It was a fraction of the cost of IVF and now we get to try every month . Let me know if you ant more info on this. You can email me at wantingababy@gmail.com
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3/22/2010 9:13 PM
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Hello Ladies. I havent posted for a while but I have been reading and keeping up. Just wanted to give you all a quick update with me. I found this "plan" online called sperm meets egg plan. http://www.pregnancyloss.info/sperm_meets_egg_plan.htm
So I have been doing as instructed on here and I am finally 1 day post ovulation YAY!!! So I am officially in my 2ww :o). But as you can see the plan calls for a LOT of BDing so between work, school, kids and BD I have been busy thus the lack of posts.
I will post in a couple weeks (or sooner if i get a BFP) of my results from my first month TTC after tubal reversal.
Baby dust
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3/22/2010 4:06 PM
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Hello everyone,
AJET...hope you're not going too stir crazy on bedrest. It'll all be worth it!! Try not to POS.
Toni....glad to hear you're doing OK and your getting excited for the next round. It's good that you're keeping your spirits up. I know, crazy about the infection. Maddening, really. I chose not to have CVS or Amnio last time too and my OB was actually OK with it because my donor was only 22. I do not plan to have either next time. I really want to limit the amount of chances for future infection. I had a vaginal ultrasound each OB visit (every 3-4 wks) and I wonder if infection could have been introduced that way. I will never know but want to be especially cautious this next time. I transfer in either May or June so maybe we'll be cycle buddies!
NWells....in my past cycles, I have started Lupron around Day 17. I typically have a 28 day cycle so it usually takes me about 10 days or so to start to bleed.
jem...congratulations on your pregnancy! I truly hope everything continues to go well for you and you have a smooth pregnancy. Keep us all posted.
Welcome to Praying4Amiracle! Hope you find all the advice & support you desire here. I am sure you will. Most of us do not have too many side affects from the meds. Lupron tends to sometimes give people headaches. (It did my last cycle but not the previous 3.) The FSH meds will make you feel bloated and sometimes a bit sore because your ovaries are enlarged with multiple (hopefully!) follicles. Progesterone tends to make people sleepy if anything. Most of the shots are not bad at all. Some people complain about Progesterone (PIO) but as long as I iced the spot for a few seconds before, it was never a big deal. My husband got really good at giving them...better than my sister the nurse, actually. Can't really think of any side affects from the ultrasounds (u/s). Good luck to you. I hope you have a great cycle!
mablackie...I hope you have a wonderful time at your baby shower. I know what you mean about buying things early, etc. I bought very little early because you always worry about loss early on. I was literally just allowing myself to get very excited about the nursery, etc. when we lost the boys just before 23 weeks. I think next time though, I am going to throw caution to the wind and just go for it early. I try to stay positive, but truth is, it is still very difficult and a bit raw at times. I still cry daily, just not all day. I do know that I have to stay positive about the next cycle though as that is what I cling to for hope. Truthfully, there are times when it is a bit hard for me to read your posts (no offense meant at all by this) as I can so relate to everything that you are going through because I was right there. I am so glad that things are going well for you and I am sure they will continue to do so. Enjoy every moment of your baby shower. Are you going to find out the sexes? If not, what color scheme are you going to use?
Talk with you all later. Take good care and God bless. XO
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3/22/2010 3:45 PM
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Welcome to all the new ladies! I love this forum it offers a lot of great support and advice!
Well I have to go to the docs office Wednesday morning. My nurse is concerned that I still have not gotten AF since canceling my cycle last month. I have taken to pregnancy tests with BFN. So not sure why this is happening. The funny thing is before doing IVF I never had a problem ovulating on my own. Sometime day days varied but I always got AF every month. So hopefully I can find out what is going on.
BTW does anyone know if there was any discussion to infertility with the health care reform? Seems like since some states mandate that there be coverage they would make it fair and include infertility for everyone. We are in need to have some help from our insurance companies!
Wishing everyone the best of luck!
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3/22/2010 1:18 PM
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Welcome to the new sisters IrishGirl and jmcph and Praying.
I can tell you all that this is the best place for information, inspiration and thanks to Nwells, and some others a place for a laugh.
I was successful on my first try ladies and I miscarried at 6 weeks, I am not sure why. I used DE because I did not respond to the stimulation I only produced maxium 6 eggs. on the second cylce the largest was empty. So we moved on to DE. We have 3 snow babies just waiting for me to come and get them, but like all of you I am outof money right now and I need to find a way to finance this.
I am 39 and going to be 40 this coming May 10th. I am excited about my Birthday like always, and I will be going home to spend a week with my Mommy and my family. When I get back it is on!!!!!I do not know who I will have to mug while in NY. I am anxoius to begin to prepare for my babies. I am sure that I will succeed this time around. I will not let anything break my faith that God has planned for me to be a Mommy. Believe it or not I miss the time of night when DH has to give me the shots ( I do not miss the shots themselves) because he trys to talk to me and calm and soothe me my DH is so sweet. I LOVE HIM
Wannabe- I was reading your post and I can't believe that the infection was not one of the first possiblities. My cousin lost her twins and a singleton, both pregnancies at 5 months, both loses where caused by an infection. I must ask why do they have to do all this testing. I am already against the Amnio and the CVS I think I am going to pass on any other testing that involves them sticking something into my baby's new home. I am sticking with the baby regardless of what it has or does not have. I know that my RE and MD will be very upset with me but, I think I have been through enough testing and transvaginal u/s to last me for a life time.
Nwells I got a lupron bleed within days, it was very light. Then we went into the treatments right away. I was fine with it. I just hope that this leads to some answers about your cycle.
Well lunch is over I must get back to work.
As always lots of love
Toni
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3/22/2010 10:50 AM
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Happy Monday Ladies,
It was a great beautiful weekend, I spent it out doors with my dog. Today however is yucky and raining. Go figure I start softball today and I hate in door practice.
IrishGirl and jmcph and Praying- welcome you will find so much support here. If it wasn't for this forum I would have lost my mind months ago. the Ladies keep you positive and support you and they know what you are going through which for me is the the best thing. If I need to let out steam, or get advice I don't talk to my friends or family, I come to my sisters here because I know they will give me the best advice and support me because they know how you feel. As for the crying part, every time I meet with my RE I cry, get angry, and then cry some more. My Husband and I will be going through this 2 years in June, and will be starting our 4th IVF in May. I am currently in moc cycle so my RE can figure out what is going on with my hormones and make sure my uterus is getting nourished and thick enough to hold an embryo. Our Embies don't grow well either so we are trying to figure out why that is because according to my RE that shouldn't be happening at my age. UGH!!!!!
Ajet- I hope you are a least reading a good book!!!! Or doing cross words- If you need some recommendations on books let me know what you like to read because I have some good ones- just depends of you like pirates and adventure, or science fiction with a little romance. I am good for maybe two days on bed rest, as you all know I am all over the place and can't sit still, which could be part of my issue. SO I told my husband next cycle I am not moving, it will be nice out I will sit on my porch reading or head to the waterfall which is a minor hike, so I might do that towards the end of my 2ww. I have a feeling my next IVF cycle I am going to be on a similar hormone regiment like you are.
Ladies, on Lupron about how long did it take for you all to get your Lupron bleed? I feel like the first couple of times it was pretty quick, like 5 days after I started the shots, the last time it took a little longer and this time I have been on it 7 days today and I haven't shown any signs other then cramps that Myrtle is on her way. Granted after I write this she will show up, she is probably just unpacking first before she gets down to business, but I was just wondering what the average time frame was. Yes ladies I am nutty when it comes to talking about my monthly!!! keeps me sane with the fact that she is showing up. Well look at that, she knows I am talking about her and she is kicking in the cramps!!! WHat a Witch!!!
Well back to work-
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3/22/2010 10:37 AM
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Hello Ladies,
Its been awhile since my last posted. I'm new to most of you (since December). I went through ovulation induction with follistim (without IUI) in Jan. I have (age 39)history of endometriosis, Pitutary tumor and fibroids. I'm now 8 wks pregnant (2 prior miscarriages). Everything is going well (U/S with Fetal HR strong at 7wks) with the exception of occassional mild cramping and extreme nausea and vomiting (ALL DAY). I've been prescribed phenergan tablet which have not been very helpful and I'm afraid to take it most of the time. I've done the sea-Band thing, ginger ale, crackers..etc. I work fulltime and its killing me because of weakness and N/V. I know this is a good problem to have and my husband and I are very excited about this pregnancy. We tried to keep it a secret until I'm further along but the morning sickness gave it away very quickly. I would appreciate any advise from any of you who have gone through this or heard of any thing that has worked. I have been told Zofran also help and I wasn't sure of any of you have used it before. Wishing everyone success and would love to have your company in pregnancy soon.
Thanks
Jem
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3/22/2010 7:59 AM
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Praying-IVF worked for me the first time with my own eggs and my husband's sperm. I was 33 when we did the transfer and I am now 34. I am pregnant with twins. It can work with your own eggs. I think it completely depends on you. I know plenty of women who have had no problem getting pregnant into their late 30's and into their 40's, but then I know some who's eggs were not as good. You should be able to find this out after doing 1 IVF. The whole procedure is tough, but it's not that bad when you look at the prize. Your life will change in the fact that you have to do shots every night and so you don't go out and do much at night. Your sex life changes a lot too. You basically have doctors telling you when you can and can't have sex. As for the drugs, I didn't have too many side effects. With Lupron I was a little emotional. I remember crying one day and then laughing because I literally had no clue what i was crying about. I also felt bloated after taking the drugs and my boobs hurt too. Other then that, I felt good. Again, everyone is different. Good luck to you! Your story is a great story! If you have any questions, ask them on here. Someone on here has been through pretty much everything you can go through wtih IVF and infertility.
AJET-Good luck to you! I did a strict bed rest too. It's rough, but worth it. I kept thinking that there was no way that these babies were not going to stick because I did so little. Let us know how the test goes next week. Thinking of you and praying for you!
Wannabe-I love how positive you are!!! You give everyone such hope and a positive outlook . Thank you for that! I actually thought of you yesterday before your post. My family lives in NM and I live in MA. They want to have a shower for me. Since I am pregnant with twins I was told I can't travel after 24 or 28 weeks. My family and friends really want to have a shower for me and see me pregnant so I am going home for Easter weekend. Because of that we have all reay registered even though I am only 20 weeks pregnant. Then yesterday when we were at BAbies R Us we found 2 great cribs that were literally on sale at half the price. We bought them. I thought of you and what happened to you thinking that this could happen to anyone. What the in the would I do with everything if something happened? I am a little freaked out doing things so early! Then I saw your post and how positive you are. You really are an inspiration to everyone. Please keep posting and let us know how things go. Also, your high risk OB appointment sounds great!!!! It has to be nice to have some answers. My OB is like yours, not warm and fuzzy, but very matter of fact and tells me what needs to be done. I'd rather have that any day!!! Good luck to you! I will be praying for you and I can't wait till your next transfer. I really feel like things are going to wrok for you this time. It is your time! As my mother in law always says "good things happen to good people".
Baby dust to you all!!!
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3/21/2010 2:57 PM
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Hello all
I've been reading this forum for the past couple of weeks before deciding to post. Everyone is so supportive here. I'm new to this (IVF) and have been educating myself about it ever since we decide to do it. My situation is similar to everyone here but still a little different.
I was married when I was 24 and had two daughters by my first husband before he died a year after we married. My oldest was five and the baby was seven months. After having my baby girl, I got my tubes tied.
Fast forward to now, a year ago in June, I got remarried to my high school sweetheart who has a daughter also. We are both 37 turning 38 this year and would like to have a child together. But because my tubes were tied and burnt, out best option is going to be IVF. I will be starting my meds on April 28th with my transfer scheduled for mid-May. We borrowed money to be able to do this treatment at least twice. I am so nervous and afraid that its not going to work. Does anyone know of anyone that conceived on the first try with the own eggs? I'm also nervous about the side effects of the meds and ultrasounds. What are the side effects of the meds and ultrasounds? How bad is it? Thanks in advance for any advice or suggestions.
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3/21/2010 1:39 PM
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Good morning, ladies! Hope that everyone is having a good, relaxing weekend.
AJET615----ah, yes, the bedrest again! Hope you are not going too crazy. I know you do 5 hardcore days so sure you are eager to jump out of there at the end. Yes, my RE does let me take 1 shower a day and it keeps me sane. As I think someone has said before, there are no real documented studies that say bedrest is necessary or even proven to be helpful. I do, however, think it is a good thing to keep our bodies "quiet" after transfer so I always do the bedrest too. Can't wait to hear about your beta on the 29th. Will be praying this is your time, sweetie!
Irishgirl---welcome to the forum! I hope this is a good, positive cycle for you. Everyone one of us here knows the emotional and financial rollercoaster that IF puts you on. Don't feel badly about crying when you go into your RE's office. Trust me, they are used to it. Along with all the positives, there are many more negatives and crying is the natural reaction. Have done it myself in their office. Good luck on this cycle and hoping for your success.
jmcph---welcome also! You've come to the right place for support and advice. Sorry that your last cycle did not result in a BFP. Like yourself, we are completely out of pocket for all fertility and maternity costs. Many of us here do not have any coverage for infertility and it can add up quickly. It is very frustrating that many of us have to work so hard and spend so much to just have what comes naturally for most of the world. Are you going to try another cycle? If so, you might want to ask your clinic or look for one within driving area that has a "shared risk" program. Many clinics have this available for patients up to age 39. Basically, it gives you mulitple tries for less money and some even offer a guarantee of sorts. Unfortuately, IVF is often compared to trying to conceive the natural way, meaning it can take 3 or more cycles just like it can take 3 or more months naturally to conceive. The perception out there that IVF works immediately is misleading. It does for a small percentage but not the majority. You mentioned that you think your issue may be an embryo issue because you are getting good fertilization. If your embryos are not making it all the way to good quality blast stage then it is likely either an egg or sperm issue. Not sure of your age, but for most of us, the problem lies more in egg quality than sperm quality. For myself, I did my first IVF cycle at age 40..never tried to conceive before then. I ended up doing 3 IVF cycles (all out of pocket) with my own eggs before moving on to donor egg. It was an extremely difficult decision but one that I am so glad I made because, realistically for me, my own eggs were probably not going to result in a pregnancy unless I did many, many cycles with them and then, maybe not. There are some here who have conceived with their own eggs after age 40, but the odds are less than 5%. Anyway, I conceived twins the first time I did IVF with donor eggs. (There are several gals here doing this route also.) I carried until nearly 23 weeks when I went into preterm labor and lost our little boys in January. It has been very difficult but we are getting through and will be doing an FET in the coming months. I am glad to hear that your DH is so supportive and that you are in this together. It makes all the difference. You've come to the right place to ask questions. There are so many different sets of circumstances here that you are sure to find someone with a similar situation and can learn alot by sharing.
For everyone else, I met with the High Risk OB on Thursday. Interesting meeting. Confirmed that I do have MTHFR gene so need to take 4 mg of folic acid & a baby aspirin each day. Told me to start the folic acid now along with my prenatals and wait until after I conceive to take the baby aspirin. Said the other things I thought I had, I may not have. Retested me for one of them and will let me know. Thinks my levels were off because I had just given birth. Said that reason she thinks I lost the babies was due to a bacterial infection in the uterus. Said it is very common and my sister who's a L&D RN confirmed. Said that when I came in for my last ultrasound and they measured my cervix at 2 different lengths, that I was likely contracting then and just didn't know it. When you contract, the cervix opens up just enough to let bacteria in there and that can lead to infection. Crazy, huh? She is actually contacting the hospital to make sure that the placenta is/was tested to determine for sure. Said that it is not preventable, but that she would test me next time during both the 1st & 2nd trimester to make sure I didn't get another infection and treat me accordingly. She was very matter of fact and not the "warm & cuddly" OB I was used to. She is a genius though and I will listen to what she says. Told me not to worry about anything that that is her job. Said it is OK for me to begin trying again after I get AF. Told her it had been 10 weeks and said that after child birth that is very common. Told me to wait until 12 weeks then to call if AF hadn't started and they could prescribe something to help get me started. So, will either begin in April with a May transfer or May with a June transfer. (We are gone for 12 days in April to Mexico so have to juggle around that.) You all know the feeling, I just am eager to get going again!
Hope all of you that are expecting are getting along well and feeling good. To those of you still trying, hang in there. It's the destination, not the journey when it comes to IVF! Talk with you soon. XO
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3/20/2010 2:36 PM
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Hola Sisters!
This post comes to you from the confines of my bed--2 days left...and well you know the rest--a shower, running around the house, going down stairs, etc. I go in on Mar 29 for my preg test, so keep those fingers crossed.
Feeling pretty good...a little tired. I have to take progesterone shots in the AM and PM everyday and Estro shots in the PM every third day. Since I use EMLA to numb the injection area, I have to get up at 6:30a to apply the cream, go back to bed, and get back up at 8a to have my husband inject. My sleep schedule is totally off. BOO! And, I am really sore from so many shots--I have a black and blue polka dot butt!
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3/20/2010 8:39 AM
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Hello Everyone!
I have never posted on a forum before and am unsure about it, however, I NEED advice and support from people that are actually going through or have been through infertility. My husband and I have been TTC for 5 years. I have to note that he is very supportive and wonderful. We are having a hard time but we are in this together.
I have tried everything from clomid to IVF. We I just found out Friday that our second and last chance with IVF was unsuccessful. The first time IVF was started I did not react well to the protocol and we ended treatment 3 days from retrieval.
I live in FL and nothing is covered by insurance. I took out a $10,000 loan to pay for what we could not. We are so devastated because we were hoping that it would work or at least we would have embryos cryopreserved for another try later. Unfortunately after day 3 they did not develop much. (We had 3 grade 3 blastocysts transferred.)
I spoke with my nurse yesterday and I want some answers. We found out we do not have a fertilization issue but do we have an embryological one? They cannot say for sure. If I want I can set up a consult with my dr for a fee of about $300. I love the dr's, nurses and office. I do not want to make it seem like this is a problem I have with them. I understand that I just live in the wrong state.
I guess I want to know what would you do? 5 years in, no pregnancy, out of money...I am at a loss. I am not sure if I should give up?
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3/20/2010 8:08 AM
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NWells - I agree with the other sisters, you are the one that needs to feel comfortable and trusting of your drs. That is MOST important. It sounds as though they are really trying to figure things out for you. Remember their goal is your goal... to get you pregnant!! So hang in there.
irishgirl - welcome aboard. I will tell you that this forum has been a saving grace for me. These women are wonderful, so supportive. We all understand each other, that's what makes it so great, we can relate. Good luck with your new cycle and hang in there. Just think about what it could bring and it will help you get through all the shots and whatever side effects that come with it. You can do it.
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3/19/2010 1:09 PM
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Hi everyone-
I am new to this forum but it seems like a great support group. We have been TTC for 3 year. Been through 3 rounds of Clomid and 2 IUIs with no success. Had an IVF last year with a positive pregnancy test but very low numbers and only lasted a few days. I was totally devastated because I was so sure that IVF would work. We were not able to freeze any embryos. It took me a while to recover but we are trying again. I am on day 2 of Lupron and planning for IVF in mid-April. Went to my RE yesterday and started crying immediately upon entering their office. The staff there is super nice but I am dreading this whole process again! Glad to be able to share this with someone. Wishing luck to everyone else!!!
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3/19/2010 11:52 AM
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Good Afternoon,
Mablackie and Melissa- Thank you for your advice hearing you both say it to me, it makes me realize that the way I feel about my doctor is more important then what others think. And you are right, just because it worked for the other women doesn't mean it will for me. I feel like Yale has done some much already to leave would be exactly what Mablackie said starting over!!! In my mind some many doctors sitting in a meeting talking about what to do, is really second and third opinions, at least to me. I teared up reading both your posts because you all are here for me, you all understand, even though you don't know me, you get me and what is going on!!! so Thank you- Thank you to all my sisters, I like that using that because that is what you all have become to me!!!
Melissa & Ajet; keep resting and take it easy, if you can find a place that really relaxes you and lets you escape do it, like the ocean.
So I am on day three of Lupron, put on 4 pounds my hormones are completely wacked right now, and I think I am starting my lupron bleed. I feel like my body is so out of wack, I just keep telling myself it is all for a good reason!!!!
Lucky- I don't know my AF always comes most of the time way too early.
Well ladies it is Friday buffet time, and then we have a pep rally. OUr Boy BBall team made it to the finals in the Class S state tournament so they play tomorrow at Mohegan Sun!!! It is really exciting, plus I get to watch the game and them play a little!!!!
Love you all!!!!
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3/18/2010 7:28 PM
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hi there ladies. Haven't posted in a few days but have been reading everyones posts. I am so glad to have you all too.
Nwells -- I agree with mablackie, for so many doctors to be looking into your case and they seem to be trying different things, makes it seem like they want to figure this out for you. I too believe every woman is different on what will work for them just because leaving Yale worked for that other girl doesnt mean it will work for you. You are not her. If you like your doctor and you really see he/she is trying to work and find out whats wrong then why not stay.
a-jet -- good luck to you, I am on my 22w now also. I go in on Tuesday for pg test.
I went to work today and found out, yet another person is PG. UGH!!!! I just cant stand to hear that. It just happens to be somebody that I would never thought would be pregnant. She isnt married and isnt even trying to have a family. she even told people that she didnt want kids now. we just had a baby shower for 3 other girls in the office that were pregnant in January. I sure do hope it is my time. I just cant stand it. trying to fake my happiness for them when i really want to leave the room and cry.
Thanks for listening. I wish you all well.
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