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1/5/2012 12:01 AM
mablackie......Hey, I'm excited you are going for #3! My last cycle was a fresh but I believe would have been considered a "natural" cycle as I did not use any BCP's or Lupron. I basically just took a combination of Estrace & Delestrogen (if I am remembering correctly) followed by the normal PIO. It worked, obviously, as I am due next month. Hope this FET works for you. When are you scheduled to tentatively transfer?

1/4/2012 8:09 PM
Has anyone ever done a FET natural cycle? We are going to try 1 and I'm a little shocked at how little is involved. My RE said I wouldn't even go to the DR until day 10 of my cycle? That is crazy after doing a fresh cycle! Is that normal?

1/4/2012 8:05 PM
NWELLS- what a treat! We were watching that game...on tv!! I maybe saw you in the crowd!

Although I'm trying to get paranoid I am in my 3rd day of shots and I'm taking follistm and repronex. No lupron or micro lupron this time I don't know that I can feel much as far as discomfort so I'm wondering if my eggs aren't growing like they should. The first protocol I did I got 4 eggs and I didn't feel much for discomfort at all but hoping that we get more beautiful eggs with this protocol that my dr suggest I try. Just need not to think about it. Hoping for a great report when I go to my appt on Friday a.m.

By the way my stomach has not missed being a pin cushion. I just hope and pray this works but will have to take it one day at a time.

As always thanks everyone for listening!!

1/3/2012 10:41 AM
My Hubby got me Giants tickets for Christmas so I was at the Giants Victory over Dallas on Sunday night...It was awesome and a great way to just let go of everything!!!! MY hubby is awesome!!!!

1/3/2012 10:38 AM
Happy New Year!!!

Well I am finally doing a little better. In 6 IVF cycles I think this one hit me the hardest, I put so much faith and hope into it I really thought it would just be the one to work!!! I also let myself be depressed, every other cycle I would just pick myself up and look forward to the next cycle... t his time I just let my self get depressed and BE!!!! I am still not all there though. Michael came home the other night talking about a guy he works with and how he has adopted and he is going to talk to him.... THAT is a HUGE step for him, he was so reluctant.

Wanna you have always been so helpful and you always have such great advise!!! Reading what you have learned I cried because they are all so true... When we started this roller coaster we had know Idea where we would end up and the emotions that go into it all!!!! My RE was changed and this was our first cycle with him, I am not meeting with him until we have the results from Michael's chromatin test. Once we have those back we will set up an appointment to meet with him. We have tossed some ideas around, My sister has already said she would donate her eggs, but if it is actually Michael's sperm that is the problem I am not sure what we are going to do. He said we can get a donor, but I would rather try to fix his. I am settling down my fast pace, it needs to happen soon thinking. I am not going to even think of another IVF cycle until the summer, so we have plenty of time to figure something out.

Lcgl_ good to hear from you!!! I remember when you had your twins wow they are 2!! I hope you lil guy stays strong like his mom!!! I am glad he is responding to his treatment!!! I will be thinking of you.

Babies 4 us- UGH!!! Do you sit there and say will it ever happen for us???? I said that a lot, I also said it isn't fair, and I asked why ALOT!!!! But the realization of our sperm and egg are setting in and I am hoping that if we face that issue and deal with it that maybe things will turn around. I felt like if we just kept doing IVF our sperm and egg issue would just fix itself, well they haven't so now we need to face it head on!!! One day Babies one day!!!!!

Hopefilled I wish you the best.... try to keep piece of mind.... And I did acupuncture as well, if anything it helps you relax I recommend it!!!!

12/31/2011 1:22 AM
Hello and an early Happy New Year to you all....

Icgl....so good to hear from you. It's been awhile. Glad that everything is going well for you and your family. Can't believe your twins are already 2 years old. My how time flies!

Nwells, babies4us, and welbd.........So sorry that each of you has had rough news here lately. I hope that each of you is able to rally again and hopefully, find success in the new year. Just as Icgl said, it can happen though for some of us, it just takes a bit of time. Now after 7 IVF's and a traumatic mid-2nd trimester loss of twins, I am finally on the homeward stretch and will be bringing a baby girl home in February. It has been a long difficult journey though.

Hearing of some of the sad news recently has really gotten me to thinking about things I wish I had know when I started this journey nearly 4 years ago. Going through this IVF roller coaster, we learn so much, so just thought I would share a few of my own personal thoughts or things I wish I had known when we started out. Please feel free to add your own experiences to the list.

1) IVF is not a magic bullet. Yes, some people are fortunate and get lucky on the first try but for most of us, it takes 3 or more tries before success and that is if we are healthy with no other known issues.

2) Most of us will end up paying for everything out of pocket. If you have any insurance for IF, then you are very blessed. That said, most of us will not be ready to give up and will move heaven & earth to find the resources so be prepared to adjust everything else in your life to save the money.

3) If starting out again and under the age of 39 or younger, I would ONLY go to a clinic that has a Shared Risk or Money Back Guarantee program. It would take so much of the stress out of the equation and keep options open for other clinics, adoption, etc.

4) Really research your clinic, compare their statistics, and travel if you must to find the best place for you. After over $100,000 out of pocket to my former clinic and a terrible loss, I felt like I was getting no where. I took a year and researched clinics throughout the US and abroad. For my situation, I found an RE that other difficult cases referred me to and he was amazing. Very individual protocols with each case and extremely compassionate. He was worth traveling across country for! Don't feel like you have to go locally if you find another RE who is better suited to you. It is not that much more expensive, truly, and so worth it to know you are great hands.

5) I started my first IVF at age 40. Yes, some women will get pregnant with their own eggs after age 40. Most, sorry to say, will not. Try with your own eggs first, but if you really want a child, be prepared to move on quickly because even DE is not a sure thing and you may need finances for multiple rounds. Again, even with DE, there are some great Shared Risk programs out there. One clinic I know of will give you 6 tries and will give you an entire refund if you don't bring home a baby. Again, this takes the stress out of so many things.

6) If you feel your RE is "cookie cutter" then move on quickly. Too much is at stake financially & emotionally to keep throwing money into the wind.

7) Be your own advocate and research, research, research. I have learned so much about my body that sometimes I feel I have gotten a medical degree. I wouldn't start another IVF cycle without doing blood work to check for immune issues, clotting disorders, etc. It can make all the difference in the world. If you have had multiple tries without real success, look further......maybe sperm fragmentation, maybe chromosomal issues, maybe you need a lap done to make sure there are no obstacles in the uterus, etc. If your RE isn't thinking ahead, be reading and move on.

8) Pay attention to other women's stories. I am on another site with DE moms and I cannot tell you how much I have learned from their experiences. I don't think I would be pregnant today without that knowledge.

9) Make sure to nurture your marriage and keep it strong. As hard as IVF is on we girls, it takes a different type of toll on our husbands. They wear out faster than we do because they see the ups & downs we go through and how they affect us.

10) Keep your faith strong. Even after losing the boys, I had to dig deep and hold on. Without faith, nothing else matters.

I know there are so many other things, but that's a start. I cannot stress enough though to BE YOUR OWN ADVOCATE! Research, read, etc. Don't just rely on your RE....challenge them!

Again, Happy New Year to you all and best wishes for a happy, healthy, fulfilling 2012.

12/30/2011 5:55 PM
lcgl- Thanks for your success story it is encouraging to hear what you have been through and that it did work for you. 2 times!! That is so miraculous! I needed to hear this you to had your unsuccessful times but you are proof that it can happen. I'm holding on to that hope.

Glad your little one is responding well to treatment. You and your family are in my prayers!

Everyone have a safe and Happy New Year!!

12/30/2011 9:15 AM
Hi. Some of you may remember me from a long time ago. I check in now and then hoping to see happy endings for all of you. I've read some of your recent set backs after long fights and I just wanted to share my story again to help you find some hope. In a nutshell: we did 11 ovarian stimulation cycles with IUI (first with clomid then with follistim) without a single pregnancy, then we progressed to IVF....
IVF #1, one low grade embryo, BFN;
IVF#2, six high grade embryos, one is now in kindergarten, the rest frozen;
FET#1, BFN;
FET#2, BFN and all totsicles gone;
IVF#3, 4 good embryos, bfn;
IVF#4, 3 good embryos transferred, 3 gestational sacs (yikes) but only 2 developed heartbeats and they are now 2 years old.

The only thing I did differently on the last cycle was accupuncture. Looking back, I don't know how I did it. Crazy perseverance may not be the right course for everyone, but it was right for me.

I'll keep you all in my prayers. Keep us in yours, too, because one of our twins has a super rare autoimmune disorder that has caused some neurologic problems. He's responding very well treatment, but it's still scary.

12/29/2011 6:36 PM
Well, I had my Baseline U/S today and things look good. Hoping things keep looking up. They are trying a fairly new protocol with me. The nurse told me today they have been using since about July and have had good success with it. So I thought that was encouraging but I'm still guarded as far as my hope but I have to have hope and believe that this will happen!!

I'm wishing everyone the best no matter what stage you are in the process. We have to have hope and believe that having our own baby to hold can happen to us!!

12/29/2011 10:20 AM
NWELLS, just wanted to let you know that I am thinking about you!! I too started my period Tuesday morning and that night I cried for you and me! It is so hard to believe that it wont just happen for us. We are going to give IVF#4 a try sometime in 2012 and I really have hope it will work. It is crazy how much hope someone can have! I hope you get some answers into yoiur egg and sperm issue. I guess it doesnt matter what age we are, I am only 29, it doesnt get any easier. I hope you find happiness in whatever route you guys do!!

12/28/2011 8:09 AM
NWells: I'm so, so sorry for what you're going through. I'm sure you're devastated, it's obvious through your words. Please know that we're all here for you. Really, there are no words I can say that can take away your pain. Only time can make things less raw. i think about you often.


Lavonda: Yes, the FET is like night and day compared to a fresh cycle. Sure, there are SOME hormonal moments, but nothing compared to a fresh cycle. Best of luck to you, wishing you a successful thaw and implantation. Keeping our fingers crossed.

Hopefilled: I can totally understand the nervous thoughts that cross your mind constantly. I know there is nothing really that we can do for you except listen and give feedback and send good vibes through the keyboard to you. Wishing you success as well.

My DH and I had the dreaded post-cycle consultation yesterday with our RE. He seemed optimistic, however, and mentioned changes in protocol that included the micro-dose Lupron, heparin, etc. He stated that we hadn't reached the ceiling of trying and tweaking things. Does make me wonder from time to time why we didn't just start on the "ceiling" so-to-speak, due to my age. He did say that my ovaries are not done and they respond well and we had some beautiful embryos last cycle. The main issue at this point is that my husband is a tad on the reluctant side to dish out more money and emotional energy/stress. This would be our 3rd IVF and at our ages (me, 5 months away from 40 and he is 51), we're no spring chickens in the world of reproduction. AND, we have absolutely no insurance coverage with regards to infertility, man, Indiana sucks!!! I do think he'll come around, but I still worry. After all, isn't that what we do best, here on the board is WORRY!?! How can you not?

Hang in there, all. What else can we do?

12/27/2011 10:57 PM
Well..... I put on my first estrogen patch today. Reduced to 5 units of lupron instead of 10, and a baby asprin daily. This FET cycle is way different than a fresh cycle. I go in for u/s and bloodwork on jan. 9. Im not sure how to feel about it all.

12/27/2011 8:32 PM
Hi Everyone! I hope you all had a Blessed Merry Christmas and wishing you a Happy New Year!

Nwells I'm so sorry to ready your post! It is just so hard to comprehend why things are they way they are. You are such an great person to talk to on here and I wish you nothing but the best ahead in 2012!!!

I am needing support with thoughts and prayers in the next few weeks as we are going forward with another IVF cycle. I took my last BC so the journey begins again. I am trying not to get discouraged and I do have faith and hope that miracles do happen just hard understand why it doesn't happen to me. But I'm hoping I will have a little miracle soon!! I need to be more positive and not get so stressed out but it is easier said than done.


12/27/2011 4:49 PM
Hello ladies

I took another test yesterday AM (which would have been my blood work) and it was again negative. So I stopped my progesterone, I guess just trying to figure out one way or the other. Well Myrtle showed her evil little head this AM, so as I am sitting there and they are taking my blood, I am having cramps and thinking this is a waist of time. So they will call me tomorrow to tell me what I already knew. I was holding on to it being a false neg, up until yesterday when I really stared to show signs of myrtle, It wasn't spotting anymore. This whole thing is very hard for me, I put all my faith into this cycle, I prayed more then I ever had. Now it is facing our sperm and Egg issue, and figuring out if there is any way to help it and if not well then we need to face other options and I think right now that's the HARDEST thing for me right now!!! I am going to be 37, never in my life did i think this is were I would be!!! :'(.

I like the book Idea... Maybe I should look into that Almost like a self help book for women who are going through all this sh*(&^..... I just have to tell my story huh!!! LOL!! maybe one day if we have a happy ending i will look in to the possibility.

Thank you ladies don't know where I would be with out all of you!!!! #6 HA tarot card lied!!!

12/26/2011 11:31 AM
Wishing that everyone had a very Merry Christmas and best wishes for a wonderful New Year!!!!


Nwells - I've been thinking of you and praying that it is a false negative!!!!

12/25/2011 8:49 AM
Merry Christmas all - may 2012 be everything you hope for.....

NWells - Merry Christmas to you - It sounds like you are letting go of that possible positive result, though I still pray for a Christmas miracle for you.... I'm so glad you have such wonderful support to help you get through all this - Life just does not seem fair sometimes - this is not fair!! and my heart breaks for you - I just have to beieve that one day you and your DH will be holding your baby in your arms and whether though pregnancy or adoption, everything you have gone through will have led you to your beautiful baby that was meant to be for you. If IVF didn't work for us we were going to adopt - like you my DH wasn't quite there, but I lke to think he would have come around..... Last week we met my DH's cousin, with her husband and their two beautiful sweet adopted girls from Korea - what a wonderful happy family they are! How ever you and your DH go forward we'll look forward to going on the ride with you - sharing your diffucult journey in such a positive and enthusiastic way has helped so many of us get through the hardest moments - maybe you should write a book!! You're a natural writer and half of it is already written on this forum!! I'm still hoping for a possible positive for you though...... this cycle's not over yet......

12/24/2011 10:25 PM
Merry Christmas EVE!!! and Merry Christmas because i don't think I will be on here tomorrow!!!

SO ladies, my 1st POAS was bfn- I was pretty much prepared to see it so it wasn't that much of a blow!!!! My sister was with me and very supportive. We went to My mom in laws for christmas eve as we always do, such a great time and great memories!!!! Of course there were people there who had to throw in there two sense. So now my husband is like I don't think we are out of the woods yet, so and so took a test and it was neg, she was bleeding and two week later she didn't feel right and she was actually preg. I told him that I know so many people who have been bleeding and actually been preg, just for me the two don't go together!! I am going to take another on Monday the day i am supposed to go for my test, but Yale is shut down and so are quest labs i have to wait till Tuesday. Ladies not going lie, I had a rough day so I had some wine tonight, ANNND some Bushmills shots...... I needed to relax and lets just say that did the trick!! LOL.... I am having tea now and writing while my husband wraps my presents in the living room. We talked about adoption on the way home tonight, but he said he isn't willing to give up tring on our own yet but he doesn't like seeing me take all those extra hormones and such. We both want to adopt a baby, but he isn't sure he is ready yet. Well if we want to go through DCF we need to go through an application process and I think We may just start that in the new year. IF we have that done and we get on a list by the time we come up for a baby I think Michael will be ready. He even said lets get that stuff out of the way. R we done w IVF I don't know.....

12/24/2011 9:33 PM
Merry Christmas to all ! And my the new year bring us us the blessings we are praying for.

12/23/2011 9:54 PM
NWells it has been a while since I have posted anything but have been catching up and I am cheering you on like the rest out there!! Hoping and praying this is the one!!! Please keep us posted and hoping you have a great news to tell us soon!!! Hang in there!!

12/23/2011 9:44 PM
It's torturous - the cramps and spotting could easily be a sign of multiples though - praying for you xx

12/23/2011 9:41 PM
Goodnight NWells - hope you get some sleep - keep us posted....

12/23/2011 9:39 PM
There was bright red blood when I put progesterone in it is getting harder for me 2 stay positive because 5 out of 6 times bleedin b4 my test meant bfn. the time I got pregnant I didn't spot bleed or anything until a week after my blood test, I'm tryin SOOOO hard 2 Believe right now. Night ladies hopefully things turn around.

12/23/2011 8:48 PM
Tcr thank u that is what it is like clear one minute pink the next. I am irritated down there 2 & I have cramps. My nerves r a mess & I'm exhausted. I may test tmrw just 2 ease my mind I know it may be 2 early but if they r there I should have sm sort of sign right???? Oui! This sucks. I'm heading 2 bed! Thanks



12/23/2011 7:57 PM
NWells - for me the spotting was on and off for the first 6 weeks - it's hard to remember how it was at the begining exactly now, but I do know I was very nervous of that first blood test because I had been spotting - it wasn't constant like a period but pink one moment and clear the next - then pink again - I was told to rest whenever I spotted - also I had to stop using the inserts when I spotted as the RE thought they could be causing the bleeding- irritation... good luck good luck - I hope you have some twins in there!! heart pounding could definitely be a symptom - I had that a lot during the first half of my pregnancy......

12/23/2011 6:57 PM
Ladies I need some one to tell me, Tcr- when you bled how much was it and how long did your implant bleeding last.... I had the pinkness on Wed, then when I put the applicator in it was clean, then just now the pink is back, I am ok but I want to know is the attachment bleeding constant or is it random over a couple of days? See I never had implant bleeding, I always just had the pink and it meant I wasn't peg. Then the last two times I did this (on the Lupron) I didn't bleed at all one time I was peg and the other I started with the pink the night before my blood work. I don't 'know what to think, my chest is kind of sore, but not really, and then my cramps are on an off... entry girl you have multiples how did you feel, I know everyone is different but I need someone to tell me maybe I have multiples and that is why I am spotting.

12/22/2011 9:39 PM
NWells- hang in there - to pee or not to pee - that really is the question!! If it works and shows up then you save yourself two entire days of stress, worry and misery - but if it's not positive or just too early to tell then of course that stress and worry becomes worse.... For me I P'dOAS every single day after the transfer so I would know exactly when the trigger shot was out of my system and when it could mean a real positive - I got the real positive three days before my blood test was due - There was no way I could have waited until the test at the clinic - I would have lost my mind - just needed to know either way! I think when the cycle falls on a holiday it becomes even harder - and after 6 times I think most of us would barely be standing! We're with you NWells - however you go about facing the results we're here rooting for you!

12/22/2011 9:14 AM
I am breathing, deep breaths.... With my history bleeding is bad..... my discharge on the pad was a browish pink last night and then it was kind of pinkish brown for the next two wipes(which is the endometrin mixing with the blood) but when I put in my endometrin it was clear, and then this AM clear again. Seriously I fell a lseep with my cross in my hand, my dog again on top of me, I woke with my heart racing and my stomach so sick, like that nervous sick around 4:30, I still feel that way now. Ladies I can't even explain to you, this cycle is so far the worst one for me, the thought of it not working sends me into a whirl wind of tears and depression, my heart sinks... Granted my thoughts are more that it worked, but I am SOOOO scared to totally grasp on to that thought. I think it is the time of year too, such a joyous happy time you just pray the Lord and Santa will give us what we want for Christmas, even though we will find out three days after. I think that is part of it to, I have to wait two extra days to find out. My office is closed so I have to go to a quest lab on Tuesday and I won't find out until the Wed, the longest 24 hours of my life. LAdies should I POAS on Christmas day? I am scared if + it would be an amazing day if not I will be depressed. But I am going to dwell on it!! This BLOWS!!!!!

12/22/2011 12:29 AM
NWells - just breathe - your embies are 10 days old right now - that's exactly when I started spotting when it worked for us - it could well be some implantation bleeding - it's so hard but try not to read too much into it - we are all sending prayers out into the universe for you - you have 4 in there which gives you such a wonderful chance - try to breathe and take it as easy as you possibly can xx

12/21/2011 9:30 PM
Ladies some one tell me when in this process does attachment bleeding happen???? I am one week post transfer, and with my past except the last two cycles i bled one week after transfer- WELL my discharge is now pink... I am not doing well at all right now. This is freaking bullshit and I am so sick of this!!!!

12/21/2011 9:25 AM
Hello ladies,
Hope the Christmas shopping season is treating you well.... "Wouldn't be the shopping season if the stores weren't any Hooter, i mean Hotter then they are" LOL!!!!!! Probably one of the best Christmas movies every!!! LOL!!!

SO I am one week post transfer.... And I have no IDEA were I am right now. I think I am coming down with a cold, my glands hurt, and I am extremely winded, last night I got light headed, when I was standing up and walking around. My husband made me sit down and do nothing. Which for me was hard. I have so much to do and not stressing out about it is so hard. I need my house vacuumed SO bad and I won't do it so I am on my husband to do it, and he gets an attitude... Yeah he doesn't realized just how much I do around the house until I can't do anything. So as of today, my chest is sore, but nothing unusual, cramping again but more like Myrtle cramps- Ladies you probably think I am nuts but the cramps from the ovaries and transfer are so much different than normal period cramps, well right now I have the period cramps so I have no idea. Last night I fell asleep feeling like I am pregnant, I was exhausted, my chest killed and my 85 pound dog fell asleep basically lying on top of me with his head on my head, don't think he could have gotten any closer to me!!!! But I woke this am feeling totally different. AHHHH!!!! This BLOWS!! Thank God I have this forum to vent on though, I think I would lose my mind if I didn't have you all!!!!

To quote Mablackie and welbd, INFERTILITY SUCKS!!!!

12/20/2011 4:13 PM
Damn straight! Infertility does suck!

12/20/2011 10:28 AM
Sorry, that post was supposed to go NWells.

12/20/2011 8:15 AM
WellBD, try not to look into things too deep! I know it's hard, but everyone's body is different. After my IVF cycle where I got pregnant with my twins, I cramped, but that was it. No "implantation bleeding", my breasts never hurt, no pregnancy signs at all! Honestly, I didn't feel pregnant until I was 7 or 8 weeks along, then I started to feel nauseus.

So try to think positive and not read into every little thing you feel (or don't feel). I have a good feeling about this cycle for you.

Sending positive thoughts and prayers your way!

As for us, we are trying for # 3. We've been trying on our own for 6 months with no luck. So now we are trying the old ovulation kit and crinone for a couple months. If this doesn't work (which I don't have faith that it will), then we are going to try 1 or 2 FET cycles. We don't think we'll do more then 2 because of the cost. We would completely have gone into dept to have 2 kids, but since we have our twins, I can't justify spending another $40,000 on another baby. The weird thing is I didn't think I would be as disappointed if I didn't get pregnant since I have two kids, but I have the same feelings I had before. Everyone is having their 2nd or 3rd child and it seems to be taking forever for us again. Infertility sucks!

Hope everyone has a wonderful holiday!

12/19/2011 9:23 AM
Hello ladies,

I am trying SOOO hard not to read in to anything. Last night I couldn't fall asleep because my mind was turning. So I really don't have cramps anymore, they kind of ended yesterday, if I move around to much or am more active then I should be I do cramp up but that is it. I will occasionally get a dull Myrtle Ache though which has me thinking negative. My breast hurt but not that bad, my nips though KILL but all side effect of the progesterone. Yesterday my heart was racing all day and I felt sick all day, I would feel icky, then get hungry, then I would eat and then feel sick again. We went to a Christmas party and I think the food wasn't good and that is what upset my stomach. UGH!!! this whole thing sucks, you would think after 6 times I would be more relaxed, I think it has more to do with the fact that when we got Pregnant I didn't know what the signs meant so I couldn't look into them, now knowing the minor signs I am trying so hard not to look into them and say OMG I think I am... That whole thought is so scary to face, I don't know if you all know what I mean. OUI!!!! So that is where I am right now, still praying hard and hoping for the best Christmas gift my husband and I will ever receive !!!! Technically I could POAS on Christmas AM- I don't know if I can get myself to do it though.

12/18/2011 5:09 PM
Lavonda....the embryos do not take long to unthaw. They will unthaw them early the morning of your FET and watch them to see that they are continuing to grow. If they are not and you have additional frozens to choose from, they would unthaw a second batch and you would proceed with your FET on the same day. It might be a bit later in the day, but it would be the same day.

Welbd.....sorry to hear about your cycle. I have had the phone call previously on the morning of an FET and been told not to come in. It is really hard to take especially after all of the hormones again. Hope your next attempt is successful for you.

NWells.....4....Wow! Hoping your new RE and new protocol turn out to be the magic combination for you! Will be eagerly looking for your updates.

Snowie....hope you are thoroughly enjoying your first Christmas with your precious baby girl!

12/18/2011 3:21 PM
Hello all. Please forgive me for the lack of posts. I dont check in very often these days. Im approaching this FET from a whole different angle. During my fresh cycle, I was totally wrapped up into the whole thing. It was all I thought about night and day. Now, my husband has to remind me to keep up with my calendar and take my shots. Im not getting excited about it. I hope it works this time... But if not, im wont let it get me down.
Im sorry to hear the news from welbd. And thst got me to wondering about mine. Does anyone know how long it takes to thaw the embryos? And if the 2 dont survive the thaw? Will they be anle to thaw a couple more? Or will I have to repeat the whole process over again?
Nwells! Transferred 4... Wow! Imagine if all four stick! That would be a handful.
I will add all of you to my prayer list.

12/17/2011 12:07 PM
OH my welbd-I am teary right now.... I hope you find peace of mind, a bottle of wine and a good cry usually does the trick for me, and the comfort of certain family members as well (usually me sister n law and my sister) they have to get their own bottle of wine though!!! LOL!!!!

As for me, I am so winded, not sure if its s because I have literally done nothing since Wed afternoon, but if I go up my stairs, and walk around longer than 5 minutes my heart starts racing and I want to collapse from exhaustion. Now it hasn't even been 72 hours yet so I know that if they are there still the symptoms wouldn't be kicking in that fast!!!! I am SOOOO Crampy, I move I cramp, granted my ovaries took a beating this time, 19 eggs, and i am sure they are swollen big time, but my whole nether region is just ick!!! I feel so BLA!!!! I am probably driving myself insane, but I where my believe pin, my aunt in law sent me up a cross that says just believe, and it has two dangles that say have faith and believe in the lord, I slept with it in my hands last night. I have a wish the pregnancy prayer every night. So lets hope it is all for a good cause, lets hope I am not over doing the whole thing!!!

That is where I stand at this point, lets hope in a few days i will have a better update... God I hope so!!!

12/16/2011 6:25 PM
Thanks, Snowie. I appreciate the words of support. I knew that a successful thaw wasn't guaranteed, but we were hoping at least one of the two would come through.......no such luck. Between two miscarriages and now this, 2011 hasn't been the most favorable of years. Hoping next year will be less depressing. So, my husband has been very supportive today and I went ahead and took the 1 valium pill the doctor dispensed to me to be used for the transfer in order to numb myself for a bit and sleep. Then a little comfort food for my spirits. We're hanging in there, but, of course, it just depends on the moment. I'm sure there are more tears left to be shed.

Thanks for listening, all.

NWells, perhaps you're the one that will pull out with some good news this month. Will be rooting for you!

12/16/2011 8:18 AM
I am so sorry to hear this welbd! I also had some not make a thaw and know how bad it sucks. I hope you are able to just relax and grieve today in peace. We are all here for you

12/16/2011 7:52 AM
Never mind all of the worrying....just got the call, they didn't survive the thaw.........Numb.......

12/16/2011 6:57 AM
Thank you, Snowie. I will certainly take your 2 cents worth. That eases my mind. AND, since my RE said the same, I feel a bit more at ease.

I'm getting ready to go in for the big transfer, hoping they come in the room saying they both survived the thaw and are able to put both back in. I've done what I can

12/16/2011 6:42 AM
welbd- here is my experience and 2 cents worth. when i switched re's last year my previous re had a strict 48 hour bed rest rule but my new one had ZERO bedrest. As a matter of fact he indicated its better to be active bc it keeps your blood flowing. So after my transfer this time i went to work and continued my day as normal. I even had sex during my 2ww. And as we know this is the one that got me my sweet baby girl.

12/15/2011 8:49 PM
Hope you're chillin NWells, and enjoying your down-time. Pamper yourself and just relax.

We're going in for the big transfer in the a.m. What do you ladies think? I have the transfer tomorrow and then of course take it easy for 2 days, but my family xmas has been planned for Saturday. Now, my RE said fine, all I have to do is ride in a car for an hour and I can lie down in the car, then sit at my parents for a couple of hours and ride back. Does that sound like too much? I kind of wish we would've schedule for Monday or Sunday so I didn't have to worry about it. Again, the RE says it's fine, but I can't help but wonder if I should just skip it, the family christmas, that is.

Always questioning myself when it comes to that stuff. Any thoughts from you all?

12/14/2011 8:18 PM
We put back 4... 2 4cell (almost 5) & 2 5 cells all were grade 2. But they were still growing so puttin them back was the best choice. Now let's hope they keep goin!!! I'm nervous we never put back embies this low before. They were alway 6-8 cells & the one time we had a 9 we got pg. I don't know what 2 think, but I went 2 church after & prayed & I'v been on the couch since, & will be for 2 days. So ill write with updates. OH my blood test is on the 27th, so I have a eww & 3day waitm. My office is closed so I have 2 go 2 quest lab so I won't have my results till the next day. OUI!!! Gonna be a LOOOONG holiday!!!!

12/14/2011 7:25 PM
Nwells - Thinking of you, praying that your transfer went well, and hoping that you are actually taking it easy!!!!
God bless you and your embies!!!!

12/14/2011 11:35 AM
Ok ladies I am @ the office... My RE called & said that 4 of our embies r still growin & knowin my hystory he would like 2 do a day 3 transfer, yes all 4!!!! So am waitin 2 go in nowm. Been very emotional this time, I am puttin so much faith into this cycle the thought of it not workin scares the hell out of me!!! So ladies I will keep u posted, I'm goin 4 acupuncture after this then home 2 watch movies & read 4 the next 2 days. My goal is 2 finish girl w the dragon tatt. Well almost time 2 go in... Later

12/13/2011 11:57 AM
NWells- Good luck with everything I hope it all works out for you!

As for me we had an egg donor picked out and she agreed to do our cycle then at the last minute quit contacting the donor agency and feriltiy clinic. Everytime the donor agency would speak with her she said she was still wiling to do it but never seemed to be able to turn in the paperwork required. It really delayed us and put us in the position to continue our search. We have a new donor now and she has already done a cycle in October. She had 29 eggs retrieved and 19 of them fertilized! I am so excited to get this process started and I am hoping with this donor we will have lots of embies to freeze!! In the end I think all this happened for a reason and we ended up with the donor that was meant for us!

12/13/2011 11:34 AM
hello ladies

So I am all over the place emotionally- AND I coudn't get out of here yesterday, I left about 20 min. early and I had to run a few errands which turned into a nightmare!!! then I got home and of course I am so anal and obsessive complusive that I couldn't sit down till the dishes were done. We had a light dinner,though so I didn't have to really cook. Tonight I have so much to do because If I go in tomorrow i need to have a few of the big things done that the HUBBY just won't do, well he will do it but half acess and I will have to do it again anyway so it is better just to do it myself. People tell me to get cleaning lady but I would probably follow her around and clean after her.. its my house I want it cleaned my way!!! My mom says I never relax, annnnnd I don't!!! Looking forward to bed rest though I can't get up and move around so i wont!! can't wait to read!!

SO ladies this is where I am at. SNowie sorry you got this already,
I am so frustrated with this stupid company in CA that is supposed to do our Chromosome screening (the biopsy) they want 3325.00 up front before they will even do the procedure. I have approval from my insurance CO that they will cover it, but they don't bill insurance. The insurance person at Yale contacted Erin there and spoke to her almost a month ago, when we sent our blood panels. She never contacted me or anything regarding a plan for us because we didn't have enough time to come up with 3325. I dont even have a credit card to put it on!!!! SO I call Friday and she says she sent an email to her higher ups to figure out if something could be done for us. The biopsy has to be done tomorrow, I just called she told me that no one is there, they don't bill insurance PERIOD and they wont be able to go through PGD testing. I asked what she asked for, how were they willing to help me and she didn't get my question, she said I will send and email telling them that you don't have the money and won't be going through the procedure, I said something about the insurance and she said she asked if they could come up with a payment plan for us, so I asked her to get back to me, if they approved for us to have a payment plan, that way we know that if we have to go through this again we will have the plan in place, SHE says oh well this would be for this special case only and you aren't having the procedure done now, we would need the money up front!! She was rude and pissed me off.
So she just called me back... They would need 1800 today and another 1800 in a month and then we would put in for reembursment . If I knew all this over a month ago it would have been doable, But with christmas and such I just don't know. I mean if we had to pay for all this IVF out of pocket my husband and I would have been done with all of this three years ago. I mean we just don't have the money to put up front, and come to think of it we don't even have enough balance on our credit cards to even cover it. I am not asking family, I can't. I am going to wait to hear what Yale suggests we do. I am guessing will just proceed with out the testing and hope that our Embies will shine through this time!!!

SO we have 11 embies that are where they are supposed be on day 2... we even have one at 5. But as always they thrive the first two days and then slow way down so tomorrow will be the determining factor. I am all over the place right now. I have acupuncture later and can't wait to just escape all this and relax..... wish they could do acupuncture on my embies!!!! LOL!!!!!



12/13/2011 10:32 AM
Nwells .....praying for your embies!

12/12/2011 2:40 PM
NWELLS - YOU SHOULD DEFINITELY BE HOME...TRY TO SATY POSITIVE, I WILL BE SAYING A PRAYER FOR YOU, YOUR EMBIES, AND YOUR HUBBIE...GOD BLESS YOU!!!

WELBD - YOUR EMBIES ARE GOING TO BE JUST FINE..I'VE HEARD THAT THE FROZEN PRESEVATION OF THE EMBIES IS VERY SAFE AND RELIABLE, MY PRAYERS TO YOUR FAMILY AS WELL!!!!
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