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7/20/2014 1:47 PM
Wannabe...

Thanks so much for sharing your story. I can't believe you did 9 cycles! Im glad you got your little one in the end! I am considering doing one more round, but I'm trying to take a few months off to really think this through. This biological clock thing is really stressful. I did call my clinic and asked for a discounted rate, but they will not offer it. They are the only place in town that does it, so I'm kind if stuck. I know another girl in another state going for a second round who is getting a $3k discount. Really wish my clinics pricing was more reasonable. Sigh. If/when I do round 2, I will post here again.

7/19/2014 1:09 AM
For JMBhopeful....

I am an old timer on these boards and now that I finally have a toddler of my own, I seldom post, but when I saw your post regarding freezing your eggs I just wanted to weigh in with my opinion. Firstly, congrats on being proactive and freezing your eggs!! I think that is a very smart thing to do. I briefly considered it in my mid-30's but never really pursued it. At nearly 38 yrs. of age, I think you are very wise to be freezing for the future.

I finally started IVF right after my 40th bday. I had never tried to get PG before that. I only have 1 ovary due to a cyst many years ago. Anyway, on my first cycle, we retrieved 7 eggs, 4 were mature, 2 fertilized, 1 made it to transfer...BFN. Second cycle was exactly the same. Moved on to DE and retrieved 12 eggs from a young 22 yr old donor with stellar proven record. 8 were mature, 6 fertilized, transferred 2 & froze 4. BFP with twins which I lost in the 2nd trimester possibly due to an undiagnosed immune issue. Of the 4 frozens, 2 were transferred for a BFN & other 2 didn't survive the thaw. Fast forward to new donor cycle. 67 eggs retrieved (yes, I'm not kidding!), 52 mature, 38 fertilized, ended up with 18 blasts at the end of the day. Transferred 2 and ended up with 1 baby. Going for baby #2, did an SET which ended in m/c (thawed 3, transferred 1). Did PGS testing on remaining embies and several didn't survive the thaw process. Did another FET with 2 PDS tested blasts this spring and another BFN. Have 4 remaining out of the batch.

I've done 9 cycles so far and it seems that the law of 50% averages is a good rule of thumb to go by. Usually 1/2-3/4 of the eggs retrieved will be mature and or fertilize. Of those, another 1/2 will make it to blastocyst stage. So, at the end of the day 6 eggs may really mean 2-3 embryos if you are lucky. I am not trying to be discouraging at all, just realistic based upon my own experiences.

So, with that in mind, I would personally do as many cycles and freeze as many eggs as you are able to afford in hopes of having success with them in the future, especially if you want more than 1 child. While it may be expensive now, the cost of FETs in the future will be much less. I would also speak with your RE and see if you can work out some type of "package" deal for X number of retrievals rather than having to pay full price each time. It never hurts to ask and have found that many times they will work with you if you just ask.

Best of luck to you and I hope that some day you are holding your baby(s) in your arms.

7/16/2014 6:28 PM
Had an ultrasound yesterday. Dr. saw 2 sacs, but at this time could only see one yolk, so I guess we'll know better in 2 wks at my next appointment. He said it may be a bit early to see, or it may be hidding. Still no symptoms except tiredness!

7/16/2014 11:42 AM
Jmbhopeful you are really a brave lady..cheers to you. I would say do whatever you feel is comfortable for you. If you want to cycle again and you are comfortable then well and good if not at least you have something already. Also Something to consider, yes as we age it becomes more challenging to get pregnant and chances are lower but there are many women in their 40s who are having babies naturally. So you never know, this could be your case. My sis in-law is 44 years old and she is pregnant naturally. Yes it does come with many tests and issues but it is possible. So I wish you the best in your decision and in finding Mr. Right.

7/12/2014 10:46 AM
Thanks tcr21! Point well taken!

7/11/2014 7:03 PM
I have a cousin who just turned 42 and has not quite found the right guy yet - she's healthy, fit, active and would love to have a child - The strain of 'time running out' being at the forefront of her mind has made things very difficult for her recent relationships - and she has stayed with (in her own words) the wrong guy as she feels that is her last chance of a baby - I think she wishes she had frozen some eggs a few years ago. Then she could relax some, knowing the possibility for a child remains. In an ideal world you would find the right guy soon, but if it takes a while longer having more eggs can only be a good thing. I can't predict the future, but if I was in your position and could afford to, I would do it a second time. I wish you the best of luck.

7/11/2014 1:57 PM
Hi ladies. Have an opinion question for you!

I just had my follow-up appointment from my egg retrieval/freezing procedure. It took 10 days for my period to start (I was told it will usually be about 4-5 days) so I was nervous for a while there, but my follow-up ultrasound shows that everything is back to normal. He said he had 4 women going trough the same process at the same time and I was the only one that made it to retrieval! So I'm definitely feeling lucky and thankful!

My question is, should I cycle again? Remember I am single, 37 (almost 38!) and freezing my eggs for the future. This first cycle I had 6 eggs retrieved and frozen. The doctor said I could expect about the same if I cycle again. I asked if this is because I am losing my fertility, he smiled and said "it's because you're maturing" lol. Anyhow this is all out of pocket for me, and I haven't yet received all the bills yet for the ultrasounds, etc, so I'm unsure of the total cost. At this point it's been about $8500 but could go up from there (maybe $10-12k?). I asked my RE doctor if my options are to freeze again now, or wait a few years for (maybe) a great guy and do IVF with fresh eggs, which is better? He said banking now is the better option. The embryologist has said that egg freezing/thawing is relatively new and he feels that the success rate with freezing is not as high as with IVF. So what do you think? Is 6 enough? Should I do it again? The thought of another hit to my precious bank account pains me! I'm open to feedback!

7/11/2014 9:39 AM
Hello Khayes, was it this week that you had the procedure? How did it go? If it was not this week I wish you the best when you get it done. Sounds like a lot of work, pain and discomfort. Think positively, we would do anything for our kids and here you are going through all this for your kid. This is such a journey and it molds us for the better. You have been on my mind lately and hopefully and prayerfully this will clear things up for your next transfer. Thinking of you dear.
Have a blessed weekend.

7/8/2014 4:54 PM
Hello Ladies,

I hope everyone enjoyed the holiday weekend. Thanks for checking in 2014MOM. I decided to try a new RE to get another opinion as a recommendation through a friend. They recommended just doing a hysteroscopy then the grueling sonohystegram again. It really is the gold standard for determining if there is a scar tissue regrowth/concern. It is scheduled for next week. The funny thing is though, I bled pretty heavy my most recent period, so perhaps it wasn't scar tissue but hormonal imbalances after the FET that threw me off the last couple months. Either way, I will be glad to know definitively if things are okay. I'm just a little nervous to have a new dr. do anything down there. I go for my pre-op appointment tomorrow so I will ask the pertinent questions then. My next cycle will depend on if they actually perform any surgery or not, and the results of my initial testing. Otherwise I am off for the summer and am enjoying exploring new places with my son. I can't believe how much he has grown in a year. I am so excited for you to see this for yourself. I hope you continue to be progressing well!

Cann13- Congratulations on finding out you're having a little boy! That is great news!!! The time has flown by so quickly. So happy to see things are going your way!

Best of luck to everyone else. Thanks for all of your support!

7/7/2014 1:55 PM
Macbaby, I am sorry to hear about the results you got. And on the other hand I am glad that you are looking forward and thinking of meeting with the doctor. Hang in there dear, we are all rooting for you and wishing you the best. Keep us posted on what is going on and feel free to vent if you need to. Hugs.

Hopefulmom-o-saurus very high numbers you have there!! One can tell from the tone of your post how excited you are! Congratulations wishing you all the best.

Cann13 you are already 4.5 months! Wow..I keep using you as my yard stick..I can't wait to get there!! and it is a BOY!!! Congratulations!! Now you can start planning and painting the room, thinking of names, shopping e.t.c.

Khayes! Long time no hear...hope things are going on well on your side.

7/7/2014 1:08 PM
Macbaby, I'm so sorry, it must be such a disappointment. I'll be cheering you on next time too!

I had my second beta today 1059.

7/7/2014 12:14 PM
Good Afternoon ladies!!
Hopefulmom-o-saurus CONGRATS!! Thats GREAT news. I know what you mean by still not believing it. I am 4-1/2 months and I still cant believe it. But its happening! Enjoy every step of it, it goes by fast.

Macbaby- I am sorry to hear the news but do not give up! It didnt happen my first try either and look at me now. Its something we all want too much to just give up. This will make you stronger. Please keep us posted. I continue to pray for all of you ladies.

As for myself, we went today to do the 3rd part of screening U/S and all seems well.
Also,we found out...IT'S A BOY!!! YES!! We are having a boy. We both wanted a boy, especially my husband being the last with the last name. Now he has a little mini him to carry it on. I could not believe it when I saw it. They measured every part of his body so we got to see every tiny bit of him was amazing. I am 18 weeks today and getting bigger.

I hope you all have a great week. Prayers and baby dust to all!

7/7/2014 5:30 AM
Congrats Hopefulmom-o-saurus! I'm so excited for you! I will be praying that you have an easy pregnancy!

Mine was a BFN. It was disappointing, but after being upset for a day, I'm back to normal and ready to fight again! We have an appt. with our doctor in about 3 weeks to discuss what happened and what we should do differently. We are also looking at getting a second opinion from CCRM since they have pretty good success rates for people with DOR. I'm very blessed to have a wonderful family who supports us all the way, and the means to be able to go through this again (although I wish we didn't have to!). Thanks so much to all of you who have provided support, prayers, encouragement over the past month!

7/5/2014 11:06 PM
pepsgirl07 ~ Woo Hoo! Great news! I hope you're feeling well too!

7/5/2014 11:04 PM
Hopefulmomosaurus ~ Congratulations!!! So exciting! I'm very happy for you!

7/4/2014 11:49 AM
Thanks ladies for the congrats, it doesn't quite seem real yet, it's been a 10 year wait after all!

Macbaby, Hope you will have good news as well, you are in my thoughts and prayers.

7/4/2014 8:59 AM
Congratulations Hopefulemom-o-saurus! Such great news!

7/3/2014 8:59 PM
Hopefulmom-o-saurus: Congratulations that is such great news and a great way to start the long holiday weekend!!! Now is the time to enjoy being pregnant. Hopefully you will no get any morning sickness but if you do remember it for something greater. This is such great news and I am very happy for you Welcome to the mommy club. Keep us posted to your progress and appointments.

Yesterday we had another OB appointment and the twins are doing fabulous. The first trimester screen showed the babies have 1 in 6842% chance of having downs and their heartbeats are strong. As of this Sunday 07/06 we will be 14 weeks. I can't wait to find out what they are going to be!!!

Overall ladies, keep us posted to your news and it is really great to see all the success stories. Everyone have a great 4th of July!!

7/3/2014 4:29 PM
Congrats hopefulmomosaurus!!!! That is wonderful news & strong numbers. I know you will have a great holiday weekend!

Macbaby, hang in there....I hope you get a sweet surprise today but if you don't hear the news you are hoping for....don't give up. I know how much it hurts but just keep thinking you are still one day closer to your baby. Big hugs! Xo

Best wishes to the rest of you and hope everyone enjoys the holiday weekend!

7/3/2014 10:18 AM
Congrats!!!! Always love seeing happy news on here!! 😊

7/3/2014 10:10 AM
Congratulations to me! I am officially preggers! Beta 154!

7/3/2014 8:50 AM
Went to have blood drawn about an hour ago. I have my phone turned all the way up and put off the vacuuming so I won't miss it. I want to know before the long holiday weekend!

7/2/2014 3:06 PM
Thanks! I caved and did hpt this morning. Bfn. I know it's not 100%, but I had to find out on my terms. I'm so tired of waiting by the phone for the nurse to call. I'm still praying for a miracle though!

7/2/2014 1:47 PM
Hopefulmom-o-saurus and macbaby....Thursday is here!! Praying for you ladies and will be thinking of you.

6/30/2014 2:50 PM
Thank you ladies! You have all given me hope. I was feeling very down this morning, but much more positive now!

6/30/2014 12:54 PM
*PREGNANT*

6/30/2014 12:51 PM
Macbaby,
One of my friends said she just knew she was ptegnant with her first child because she, "felt better than she ever had in her life!"

6/30/2014 12:48 PM
I will not do a home test because of the reasons listed below! I think my husband is more anxious than I am! I've been listening to the circle+bloom ivf series, it is helpful, if a little repetitive. Four days post transfer, I did have breast soreness on the left side but I thought it probably was to early to be significant, also some crampy feelings now and again which I attribute to my ovaries being stimulated. I was worried at first, but the I did a search and many ivf ladies reported cramping with positive results in the long run.

6/30/2014 11:51 AM
Pepsgilr07 is pregnant with twins and has no symptoms in her pregnancy...I am pregnant with one and also no symptoms at all.
Cann13 wow 17 weeks already? Can't wait to get there! Let us know whether it is a boy or a girl!

6/30/2014 10:36 AM
Good Morning Ladies!! Happy to see such good news from everyone.

Macbaby- I dont recommend testing. I did do a HPT when I was 4 days away from going in for blood and it came out negative. Then when I went in for my blood my Beta was at 63. Here I am 17 weeks later pregnant and about to find out the sex next week. I KNOW its so hard for the 2ww. I thought I was going to literally lose my mind. So stressful, looking for any sign. Made myself sick. HPT can give you false negative or even worse False positive because of all the meds we pumped in our bodies. I know its hard but take it from me wait 3 more days. You have waited this long. Good luck on Thursday. Please keep us posted.
Remember 2014MOM had NO symptoms and look at her now. Pregnant with twins. One thing I and MANY of us here have learned is anything is possible with this process. It makes us stronger every step we take.

Have a great day ladies!! Lots of love and baby dust! XOXO

6/30/2014 10:16 AM
Thanks, 2014mom. That makes me feel better! My beta is on Thursday.

6/30/2014 10:11 AM
@macbaby, when is your 2ww over? Do not go by how you feel or don't feel. Duing my 2ww I never felt anything,not even the famous implantation bleeding..and I was looking for it. So do not go by how you feel or don't feel.

6/30/2014 9:29 AM
Stupid autocorrect- meant POAS not post

6/30/2014 9:28 AM
Hopefulmom-o-saurus, are you going to Post before then? I go Thursday too but I'm too scared to test before then. I feel nothing symptoms at all, and I feel better than I have in several months, so I'm thinking this not a good sign. Good luck to you!

6/30/2014 8:10 AM
@ Hopefulmom-o-saurus wow, it will be on Thursday? That went by so fast! Eagar for you and wishing you the very high numbers!

6/30/2014 6:13 AM
Eager for Thursday to arrive. More than ready to find out if all of this effort has paid off!

6/26/2014 6:06 PM
Jmbhopeful-that is great news about your 6! I'm so happy for you. It takes a lot of strength and courage to do that, and I'm sure it'll all pay off for you in the future when Mr. Right comes along!

KanaJoy, I did find your list, so you don't need to re type it. Thanks though! And Hopefulmom-osaurus, thanks for your list as well. I just keep collecting the info and taking it to my doctor and acupuncturist. I ordered the DHEA (micronized) last night, and will probably pick the rest up locally tomorrow. I'll get as much in as I can before cycling again. Hopefully September birth control pills, October stim and retrieve once again. I will keep you all posted. In the meantime, I'm rooting for you all. Even if I'm not posting regularly, I'm reading updates, so keep 'em coming!

6/26/2014 3:51 PM
I just received the call. All 6 eggs were mature and able to be frozen! Finally some good news although I still wish I had more. Hopefully I will find a great man to fertilize them in a few years!

I have confided with 2 girlfriends who are supportive, although mostly I feel like I have been educating them on the process. I'm glad to live in a time where this technology is now available!


6/25/2014 8:11 PM
Jmbhopeful,
I think six is a good number. Technology is improving all the time as well. You are a brave woman just to take steps to preserve your fertility and I am proud of you! It's a rough road when you're on your own having to go through the process alone. Is there anyone close that you decided to confide in?

6/25/2014 8:02 PM
Raeofsunshine,
I'm so sorry for your disappointment, it must be so frustrating! Just background, I'm 35 on my first IVF cycle. When we went in three months ago for our initial consult, they gave us a list of things you can do to help yourself. Supplements are as follows:
1. No HERBAL supplements
2. Folic acid (both partners) 1000 mcg/day
3. Multivitamin-male partner, prenatal vitamin- female partner
4. Vitamin D3, 2000 iu daily (both partners)
5.Omega 3, 1200 mg daily (both partners)
6. Co Enzyme Q10 (ubiquinone), 300 mg 2xday (both partners)
7. DHEA 75 mg daily (female only >35 yrs of age.)

No NSAIDS
Avoid unnecessary medications (both)
Avoid hazardous chemicals(both)
Avoid hot tubs/saunas(both)
Try to lose weight if you are overweight
Excercise daily gently (walk, bike, swim)
Limit stress(both)
Avoid alchohol and rec. drugs (both partners)
Limit caffeine to 1 cup per day max.(>200 mg per day)
Stop smoking(both)

We did retrieve 17 eggs, 14 were mature and fertilized, 11 were still viable on transfer day, of good-excellent quality. Hope this will help you.

6/25/2014 7:58 PM
Jmbhopeful ~ You only need one! We'll keep our fingers crossed! Deep breath! We're all rooting for you.

6/25/2014 7:57 PM
Raeofsunshine ~ Yes, I did list a bunch of supplements recommended by my RE and acupuncturist for improving egg quality. Let me know if you need that again. They do say, to have a good effect, it's best to be on them for 90 days (3 months). I started them before I even "officially" had my miscarriage because at that stage (9 weeks) the most common reason for miscarriage is a chromosomal problem. This was confirmed later when after the testing. It goes by fast, so don't be daunted. Also, remember that any amount of time is helpful, so if it's not the full 3 months, any time on them is better than nothing. Best of luck to you! I know it's frustrating.

6/25/2014 2:41 PM
Oh ladies! So much excitement on here lately! So glad to hear about successful retrievals. I know that 2ww is torture, but hang in there. And as others have said, don't make yourself crazy "looking" for symptoms. When I got my call that I was pregnant with my son, I couldn't believe it. I didn't feel any different.

My DH and I just met with the doc for our "what next" appointment after canceling our transfer the morning of due to chromosome abnormalities with our two viable embryos. I honestly almost felt more bummed leaving Monday's appointment than I did the day we got the call about canceling. I was just having a hard time getting a read on what our RE would suggest. I think she tries to be very impartial, give us the facts, answer questions, but doesn't really give her opinion. We really want to try one more time and kind of see if that was a fluke with those poor quality eggs, or if that's just how things are.

She seems to support us in that. I guess I was on pretty high doses of medicines in my protocol already, so there's not much more she can do there. And I did stim ok, just the quality of the eggs/embryos was poor. So she's suggesting adding on a growth hormone, Omnitrope, to our drug protocol. Anyone have any experience with that or a growth hormone in general? Just the term kind of freaks me out, but reading online, sounds like some big-whig docs agree and use it with their patients as well. And then I'm thinking about adding some vitamins/supplements. Was it KanaJoy who posted a list of those not too long ago? I read it here...talking with my acupuncturist as well to get her opinion. I think this might end up being our last ivf cycle we try if my egg quality seems similar to the last cycle. So I kind of feel like I want to just put it all out there and do all I can to help myself. Just seems kind of daunting with ALL the supplements, injections, acupuncture, etc. We'll see.

I also know the egg growth/maturing cycle is about 90 days, so is it best to take supplements for 90 days before stimming again? I don't know if I can wait that long! I'm nervous about waiting now, like my clock is really ticking and my eggs will only be worse the longer I wait! Silly, I know. I don't know that a little extra time will hurt anything. Obviously not TOO long though either...

Just needed to vent to people who may have been there, done that. Or get what we're going though. Thanks for listening!

6/25/2014 10:11 AM
Just had the procedure and 6 were extracted from 8 follicles. They will call tomorrow and let me know how many are able to be frozen. I have to admit that I am disappointed with the low numbers.

6/23/2014 8:32 PM
Yay! So glad everyone seems to be doing well! I did have a cup of coffee this morning, to relieve the constipation! I had to get it out of there, it was putting extra pressure on my already sore ovaries I think! It works! I know many of you will be steering clear of caffeine, but my RE allows 1 cup or less. Moderation I can do!

6/23/2014 1:48 PM
Macbaby, good luck tomorrow! Before the transfer they usually do another mock transfer..you will be on valium so that should go well.

Jmbhopefull good luck to you on Wednesday. You will do well..you are such a trooper! All will go well.

Pepsgilr 07!! Days are going fast for ya! Nice...I can't wait to say by to first trimester. As of now July 19th is the last day of the injections and promitrium. The doctor would not prescribe anything for me, they said to try metamucill..going to the bathroom has become a horrific experience but I keep saying it is so worth it.

Good luck to all the ladies cycling and those on 2ww and those who are about to be on 2ww..
Lots of love

6/23/2014 1:09 PM
Hopefulmom-o-saurus - your numbers are awesome! Good luck during the 2ww.I will be in the same boat as you tomorrow. Out of my 6 Embryos that fertilized, all are excellent quality as of today so we are doing a 5 day transfer which will be tomorrow. I'm a little nervous because my mock transfer was not so easy and I have a different doctor other than my normal one for the transfer so hopefully it will go smoothly. Keep us updated on how you are doing.

To the other ladies cycling, I'm saying a prayer that all goes well!

6/23/2014 12:24 PM
Good Morning Ladies hope you all had a great weekend!!! As of yesterday 06/22 we are out of our first trimester!! 3 months down 6 months to go!

2014MOM: 4 weeks left of the progestrone, I remember the count down. Our doctor is keeping me on progestrone 1 more week. I was so excited yesterday when we hit 12 weeks and then remembered that we had to go one more week. It made me sad, as I was so looking forward to no more injections. But, hang in there the time will go by quickly and I just keep saying to myself I am making a better living environment for my little miracles!!!

Hopefulmom-o-saurus: It truly sounds like the retrieval and the transfer went well. One word of advice about the 2ww....try to stay off the internet and listening to people telling you about the symptoms you should be having. I like 2014MOM did not have any symptoms at all. I truly believed that it did not work, but no symptoms does not mean no pregnancy. With the progestrone, constipation is huge. Make sure you are drinking lots of water that seemed to help as well as my doctor let me have colace. I do not take it often, but sometimes you need it. Try not to stress about and think to much about this 2ww it will definitely go by quicker then you think.

Jmbhopeful: I hope that all goes well for you with your appointments and the retrieval. Please keep us posted to your progress.

6/23/2014 11:50 AM
Congrats on your great results Hopefulmom-o- saurus! My retrieval is Wednesday. I will keep you posted!

6/23/2014 9:14 AM
Hopefulmom-o-saurus ooh you have you some good numbers there! Congratulations..keep yourself busy and the 2WW will come before you can blink. Avoid reading so many things about symptoms you should be having etc..those really discouraged me coz in my 2ww I did not have not even one symptoms, not even the implantation bleeding..heck I have not had any symptoms at all..except laziness which I think I am always lazy.
I have 4 more weeks of progestrone and I cannot wait to stop it just coz of constipation. Talk to you doctor, they may recommend something OTC. Good luck in your 2 ww..will be waiting with you.
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